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Bear sighting
We had some friends come to visit from the city. We gathered up all the kids and went apple and pumpkin picking.
We were all done and I started wheeling a cart of pumpkins to my truck when a girl leaned out her car window and said 'look out for the bear". I am in the middle of a crowded parking lot with literally hundreds of people roaming about so I was thinking "yeah sure honey, keep drinking'  All of a sudden I hear women screaming to their kids to "come here" and shouts of "bear". The kids(not mine) were playing tag at the edge of the orchard very close to where the bear was. I was now a believer so I headed up the hill between where the bear and the kids were . Some worker drove up on a quad and said too look out because the bear was now pretty close. He was trying to encourage the bear back into the woods with the quads motor noise. Eventually the bear crossed the driveway and went into the woods but not before causing a real stir. This place was packed so it was not agood place for a bear.
I will say the bear seemed disinterested in us and also that apples must be very healthy for bears cause this sucker looked at least 300 lbs. and the worker said he was the SMALL one.
I tell you I did get a little nervous when he lumbered across the road even though I was armed. I am glad that bears are most times happy to go their own way!
Real nice healthy looking animal , I bet he eats all he can every day after closing.
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I agree with what you guys said. I also have no problem sharing my space witht he bears or MOST other creatures. The only thing a little unnerving about this situation is that it is ongoing and there are literally hundreds of people, many children whosould easily turn the corner of the next apple tree and end up in this or the other bears lap.
Bears cross my property in the morning but they give us a wide berth and it is in the early AM hours.
If it was me and I owned this obviously thriving business I think I'd try to get animal control to relocate this bear. I fnot maybe a quad full of apples in the woods might keep him occupied for the day
Scratch that thought, forget about feeding the bears if something happens the owner may be "feeding the lawyers". We all know they are a much more menacing creature and they never leave once they get a taste!  I can here it already, "so Mr. Jones you knew there were bears but you never warned the parents who frequent your establishment, nor did you put up any warning signs, didn't call the authorities...yadda, yadda, yadda
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Now this is a far cry from the little( it's all relative ) black bears near me but did anyone catch this story?
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"Pepper spray is far from a guarantee against a serious bear but it's better than nothing. It only works from 25' max so it's scary if it has to be used but probably less scary than a handgun."
Come on now??? Your comparing a handgun to pepper spray that works at 25'. Pepper spray barely works on some people, I have been sprayed and was less than impressed. If it can't stop the average "Joe" how the heck am I going to trust my life on it stopping a bear??? The bear will probably use it as a condiment while he feasts on yer' gizzard!
I agree a hangun is less than ideal but I'll take a 16 shot 9mm over your pepper spray any day of the week.
I don't bother the bears and so far they haven't bothered me. I have little doubt that should it come to it the black bears around my way, while they may be fairly decent sized are going to go down if hit multiple times. Their big they probably are coming at you in astraight line so hitting them should be doable even with the stress of the situation. Ever try to hit something moving with pepper spray?? Not easy, it moves slow and drifts. That's why many cops hate it, they try to spray the bad guy and 4 of your fellow officers and up coughing,red faced, runny nosed and cursing you 
The Alaskan Brown Bear that just killed and partially devoured the animal activist/bear expert and his girlfriend last week was killed when the Park Ranger fired 11 shots from his handgun. The bear dropped only 20' from the Ranger, they made no mention of how many shots were hits and since they didn't say he was out of ammo one can guess that he had some left( probably 15 round L.E. only mags). I would guess tat the chances are he had a 9mm or similar caliber based on his magazine capacity.
That bear was a far larger and more dangerous animal than the black bears 90% of us will ever come across. That animal had already killed 2 persons and was dining on their remains when he went into a full charge at the Ranger. They said there were 2 Rangers standing by with shotguns but they didn't fire because the Ranger with the handgun was able to dispatch the animal. He joked about what they were waitng for
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" am with F350 I would rather have a 9mm than a can of hot sauce any day."
In my experience if the spray works, you probably didn't need to use it. What I mean is it usually only works on the people who are not real aggressive or pain tolerant. A bad guy who is intent of continuing the battle does.
I would think it might be the same with a bear, it MAY scare of the bear who is just trying to run you off but I think it's effectivness against a determined animal will be less than desired. You may even turn that bear who was just toying with you into the latter.
P.S. I do still have a can in the drivers side door pocket of my truck, figured I'll spray you with my left hand then draw and shoot ya'with my right. Now that should improve it's effectivness.....
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